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A Critique Part 2 (3 posts)
05/05/07 03:51am

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Part Two of A DANG - DInGIE Americans Critique of the Article:Christians versus Jews by Barkatullah Marwat

Well,,we've gotten to the second part of this article without a single mention of Jews nor Christians.I for one find that strange,,and yet profoundly telling as regards his possible motivations and intent.

His starting thought is really disturbing to think it either came out of him naturally or it was a purposefully constructed concept.

~Similarly, when your love leaves you alone, you don't want her/him to go away but it
happens. Likewise, you don't want to kill her/him though you can yet you don't. You must
have wept after her/him after leaving behind all alone. ~
After all,,why place it here after mentioning the 'negotiation table'?IMHsmellyO,,angst pumping.

This is just wrong:
~Bush is the President of US and trying to get re-elected for the third terms but the
chances are bleak and black which was witnessed at the mid-term polls where Democrats
got victory.~
Yet,Marwat is not an American even if he writes U.S. US.So I guess it's understandable that he doesn't know Bush is out regardless.Our Presidents have Term Limits unlike The Religious Leaders he is probally more accustomed to..
This line deserves the same consideration I suppose:
~Now sitting in the forum criticizing Democrats are just fools, why? Because
they could not make Bush get to win in the last polls in question. ~
This one is just as lame,,but it's probally a willful misrepresentation.
~As regards the dependency on oil, yes it is true that US is trying to get rid of her
dependency on Arab Oil but I am not sure that Bush would ever let it happen...ask me
why? Because he is removing those who are sitting on oil reserves and not accepting his
terms and conditions such as Saddam who was fully supported by US against Iran.~
Although I suppose he may really think it's coherent.The facts don't add up with his assessment in reality.One pertinent referance proves it,,The Iraqi Freedom Act signed by Clinton.
Another one clinches it,,U.N. sanctions violated,,military force authorized.

This is a new one on me:
~Both of
the neighbors made to keep on fighting for almost a decade just to undermine their
power. Afterthat, there was an island issue between Kuwait and Iraq.~
The US made Saddam do all the stuff he did?I would never have figured Saddam and those Iranian leaders to be so weak.
If I were them,,I would be offended by this statement.And the casual phrase,,'an island incident with Kuwait' should raise the ire of Kuwaitis.They were invaded by Saddam.Aren't you living there?
If we hadn't helped Kuwait you would be under Saddams thumb while sitting there,,wouldn't you,Marwat?

But that isn't all of his conspiracy theory,it gets better:
~According to well
informed reports and analysis, US asked Saddam to invade Kuwait in order to settle all
the scores and finally Saddam did as was asked. But later he realised that he was
trapped because US wanted to get an access to the Middle East and by this way US
succeeded in realising her decade old conspiracy. ~
How many references,,simple names,,and maybe a couple of incidents could he have put in at this point to lend some credence to this.
Can you provide one,Marwat?Seriously,dude.

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RE: A Critique Part 2 (3 posts)
05/05/07 03:53am

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I don't exactly understand the subject here:
~It is just for those who argued that US always goes between two countries.~
What is the 'it'?

Now this one maybe would be believable if I had at least heard of the Kuwatis complaining about whatever troops are there.
~Sr Bush did
not set free Kuwait from Iraq but made a position and place for his troops in the region.~

Hey,,surprise,,he finally gets to:
~Another arguing point is Israel. Needless to mention, Muslim dislike and hate Israel,
why? Just because of having occupied Palestinian territory.~
Awww,come on,,it's way more than that.This is an obvious misrepresentation of the case.
If that was the only reason,,then why did certain Muslim sects help Hitler exterminate Jews before they ever got Palestine back?

I find this plainly disengenuous sounding:
~Today, if Israel announces
to withdraw her troops from occupied territory, I will RECOGNISE Israel with soul and
heart. But at the moment I cannot when it is not only occupied the land but also killing
the people who are protesting.~
With all the land the Arab nations have,,why don't they divy some out to the Pals?Wouldn't that be the 'brotherly thing' to do?
After all,,compared to the Muslim Empire,,the Israelis only want a tiny little piece of the 'hood.And Muslim control the Temple Mount to boot,,what more do you want?
Where is the famous Muslim/Islamic tolerance and generously equitable heart?Why would anyone want to advocate genocide?

Here we go with more of it:
~Final question why Muslim hate US? Because of supporting Israel openly in terms of
Palestine territory. If US is really fighting for the rights of poor then Bush is
supposed to do something for the poor Palestinians too whose lands have been occupied.~
Bush,,i.e.,the US allready gives the Pals help.Why doesn't the Muslim/Islamic Empire just let them have what they need?Land,,money,,whatever.They are richer than the US,,aren't they?
Why don't the Muslim Brothers of the Pals help them?Why do the Muslims force the Pals to turn to the US or any other nation?
Come on,,can't the Muslim/Islamic Empire take care of their own instead of expecting some decadent Judeo-Christian western nation to do that?

Hey,,here is an obvious contradiction to a previous statement:
~Kuwait was liberated immediately from the occupation of Saddam ...why? Answer is simple:
Because it involves wealth.~
This is what he said above:
~Sr Bush did
not set free Kuwait from Iraq but made a position and place for his troops in the region. ~
Ahh,liberated,,or not,,That 'tis the question,Horatio.

Here comes a shade of Mel G.:
~But Bush will not let the Palestinians get back their
territory from Israel. Why? Because according to American scholars, writers and
journalists, American foreign policy makers are mostly JEWISH rather than CHRISTIANS.~
Wow,,can you believe this?Hey,,Marwat,,I ain't a Jewish person,,nor Israeli/Hebrew at all and I don't think they should either.
I am a Christian,,albeit not a common mainstream one.Have you thought that perhaps my above reasonings make more sense than depriving a small inconsequential to The Islamic Empire people have a little corner?
The Islamic Empire controls vast tracts of land and has the financial power of the worlds leading oil producers and the wisdom of an ancient enlightened culture.Couldn't they act like it?
What an advance for the peace process,,and what a slap to the West if the Islamic Empire were to just say,,never mind,,we can give them all they need.

~> cont ~>

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RE: A Critique Part 2 (3 posts)
05/05/07 03:55am

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And it gets more anti-jewish,,with even more of what is commonly seen in the kind of people Marwat is showing himself to be,a bigot with a woody for Israelis:
~According to the reports by the same circles, 2 per cent Jewish are deeply affecting
American 98 per cent of Christian population. Don't you agree to that? Wait...it's vivid
example is your Christian President, George W. Bush who is dancing to the tone of Jewish
music. By the way, do you like Jews?~
Why do people do this?I don't judge folks by race,,I judge them by actions.But I for sure like one Israeli,,Yeshua Immanuel of Nazareth.
But does that mean I think Jews control stuff?NO,,The Creator of Souls and The Universe does.NOT some race of people or the moon or any thing else.
I hear he likes Jews that like Him,,as a matter of fact He and His Son like all folks,,and are very sad when they act all bigoted and racist.
I even heard that The Islamic faith is supposed to be similar.I have been re-assessing that position for a few years now.

He actually ends it in a lame fashion:
~ Are you sure they are loyal enough to your
interests? They are giving your loans on the basis of mortgage but what if you cannot
pay all the premiums regularly? Are you not kicked out of your dream home or business? ~
This is so far off plumb that to properly refute this illogical Plainly Racist tie in with financing would tak ea post as long as the one I just got done doing.
I don't really think anybody except some Aryan Brotherhood Acolyte or like minded person needs to have the wrongness explained to them.

Assessment:
Overall,,Barkatullah is dissapointingly obfuscating,blatantly biased,rambles off topic and certainly doesn't deliver what one should reasonably expect from a 'Cheif Editor' of anything,,let alone the Marwat Post.

With no respect for such as I just waded through,
And still shooting straight at the moonfruit,
The DANG - DInGIE American
aka,, The Evil White Man

Now,,I gotta figure out how to cut this monster up to post it.
Hey,,Mowart,,be happy,,doing this gave me a pain in the neck.
And now,you can't honestly talk about a lack of point by point responses can you?[2223] [9203]

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