Yeah,,another anti-psychoganda piece featuring the logic misadventures of that irrepresable,spunky yet intellectually challenged little psychotic murderer defender using the nic,,psygon.He apparently hates Israel.
I believe it's the same person as pkpost.
You can find the original posts here:
http://boards.excite.com/jsp/topicview.jsp?va=1&tid=518979
Hey psygon,
Why do you bother anymore?
You get proven wrong,,deceptive,bigoted and hateful virtually every time you try this stuff.
Do you have no shame?
Oh,,wait,,that's right.
You don't feel any shame over this stuff since,,you're 'an ony mouse' squeeking in the dark like the timid little disease ridden vermin I believe that you must like being seen as.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7335875.stm
~I have long argued in previous postings my opinion that the modern Jewish State of Israel is INFECTED with Naziism. The DEVIL that persecuted them has entered into them, and they are now propagating upon the Palestinian population the very things they were subjected to - collective punishment, indiscriminate killing, apartheid, etc.~
Okay then,,where's the gas chambers,work camps and rail cars used for human cattle?
And,,I am sure you can show us all the clear associations they have with Nazism.You know,,the advocation of an Aryan Nation.
Something like this maybe?:
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php
~According to documentation from the Nuremberg and Eichmann trials, the Nazi Germany SS helped finance al-Husseini's efforts in the 1936-39 revolt in Palestine. Adolf Eichmann actually visited Palestine and met with al-Husseini at that time and subsequently maintained regular contact with him later in Berlin.
In 1940, al-Husseini requested the Axis powers to acknowledge the Arab right:
... to settle the question of Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries in accordance with the national and racial interests of the Arabs and along the lines similar to those used to solve the Jewish question in Germany and Italy.While in Baghdad, Syria al-Husseini aided the pro-Nazi revolt of 1941. He then spent the rest of World War II as Hitler's special guest in Berlin, advocating the extermination of Jews in radio broadcasts back to the Middle East and recruiting Balkan Muslims for infamous SS "mountain divisions" that tried to wipe out Jewish communities throughout the region.
At the Nuremberg Trials, Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified:
The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.~
Or explain how Israel is etymologically related to Aryan instead of Iranian.
And,,please,please,please,,tell me who Israel has declared genocide on,,like Hitler did and the Mohammadens have,,on them.
Who has Israel declared will be swept into the sea?
~The State of Israel, in the first place, is a nation built on a LIE. There is no question that Hitler killed thousands of Jews, perhaps more than a million, but he also killed thousands of gypsies and other weak, helpless populations. The SIX MILLION figure, however, is a TOTAL MYTH.~
1 million,,or 6 million,,if you claim Israel is doing likewise to the Palestinians,,how many millions of murdered Palistinians are there?
And who counted them?
~ It's a numbers game, and they've been successful in lodging that lie in the collective mind of the world, eliciting a sympathy far out of proportion to reality. By comparison, the world hardly takes notice of the massacres and purges wrought by Stalin who FAR SURPASSED what Hitler ever thought of doing.~
Stalin was as much a part of the Facist equation as The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was.
~By comparison, the world has stood by and yawned about massacres taking place in Africa and the devastation that took place in Cambodia. Indeed, the US and it's population even applauds the fact that two million Iranians died in the Iran/Iraq war, and callously suggest it was too few.~
Liar.
I am a part of the US population,,and you have claimed you are too,,did/do you stand by and yawn?
I didn't nor do.
I am a part of the US population,,and you have claimed you are too,,did you applaud or suggest it was too few?
I didn't nor do.
~I find comfort in the fact that TWO UN EXPERTS have offered withering, damning condemnation upon the State of Israel for its NAZI-like policies and treatment of helpless peoples. While people have dismissed my FIRST HAND accounts of what it's like in Israel, perhaps they will listen to these reports, but, alas, I think not. Cerebration is painful. People don't want to have their preconceptions and prejudices messed with.~
Why aren't those two UN Experts NOT investigating the Palestinians declared goal of 'wiping out Israel' as evidence of a genocidal pogrom being enacted by the Palestinians.
You know and I know,,that IF only one side is 'investigated' it exposes an obvious bias FOR the 'uninvestigated'.
And when did you go to Israel?
I have been reading your posts for a while now,,I do not recall you ever saying you have been to Israel,,or Palestine.
Could you do a recap for those who may have missed your original firsthand accounts?
~I grew up sympathetic to Jews and Israelis, being taught they were "God's chosen people." ~
That's something I find very difficult to believe.
Exactly what does Hezbollah mean if not the same?
Gods chosen people would be 'the party of God',,right?
How about Aryan/Iranian?
Who are they 'superior' to?
~I have since been disabused of this notion by the Israelis themselves when I traveled there, and by a better understanding of their prophets, Moses, Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and John. All acknowledge that God has forsaken Israel and turned to a Gentile bride.~
And yet all also state that He will redeem them to the chagrin of those risen up against them crying,,Aha,Aha and holding Israel in derision.Did you NOT read those parts?
~The Old Covenant has been done away with and there is a New Covenant brought by Christ Jesus.~
Which the Muslims apparently ignore since they advocate,,spreading Islam by the sword of Ali.
~If ANYONE can be denominated as "God's Chosen People" it is all Christian Believers.~
Which is essentially what Hitler said to gain Christian support for his Aryan conquest bid.
And,,those followers of Christ are supposed to shun and NOT follow the advice of a 'divider of brethren'.
~Alas, however, most modern Christians deny their own spiritual birthright~
A Christians spiritual birthright is a product of the HEBREW ISRAELI called Jesus of Nazareth.
Unlike Esau,,who sold his birthright in Israel for a bowl of beans,,most Christians honor and respect their 'birthright' which originates in the Israeli peoples.Now,,who are the descendents of Esau if you know the Bible and etc. so well?
~in favor of a godless, Christ-denying, atheistic nation, Israel,~
Divide and conquer,,an exact replay of Hitlers propoganda which suckled the Order of Phineas,,aka The KKK,,and modern Anti-Semitic' movements in what's often called Christian ID churches.
~which persecutes Christians quietly, denying all missions efforts and making it illegal to have Christian churches which cater to Israelis.~
This refutes your assertion regarding who persesutes Christians in the ME:
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_current_christians.php
~The Christian tradition in the Middle East goes back to the first century, but the most important date is 636, the Muslim Arab Conquest. Before that date the Middle East was inhabited by mostly Christians and Jews, subjects of the Christian Byzantine Empire. Afterward, Muslim Arabs dominated the region. Exceeding even the Roman's zeal for conquest, the Arabs wanted to muslimize everyone by force and over thirteen centuries of continuous oppression, they have largely succeeded, leaving only a few struggling groups.
At the beginning of the 20th century, rising nationalist feelings in the region led the Copts of Egypt, the Assyro-Chaldeans of Iraq, the South Sudanese, and the Lebanese Christians, to try to obtain independence. But the Islamic powers in the region denied these Christians their right to self-determination. At the expense of the Middle East Christians, Arab identity and Islamic domination were firmly established. Only the Jews of Israel were able to establish a non-Islamic nation in the region. Israel has suffered perpetual war and terrorism for that accomplishment.
Islam remains intolerant of any other group of people. Others are not accepted on an equal basis, only as dhimmis to be subjugated by Islam. Muslim children are taught to chant:
We shall fight on Saturday and then on Sunday
In other words, first the Jews and then the Christians.
Thus, the outlook appears bleak for Christianity in the Middle East, in the very home of the religion, where Christ walked the earth and the central events of Christianity occurred. Emigration began in the aftermath of World War I when Muslim Arabs gained political control, continued through the middle of the twentieth century, and then accelerated in the 1990s with the rise of radical Islam. Indigenous Middle Eastern Christians are fleeing in droves, escaping Muslim violence and persecution, and deteriorating economic conditions. The only exception is Israel, where the Christian population is slowly increasing.~
AND:
http://www.uja.org/page.html?ArticleID=104341
~Suggestions that Israel is persecuting Christians were publicized by columnist Bob Novak, who has a long history of vitriolic attacks on Israel. Novak actually presented no specific evidence that any Christians have been harmed or their religious freedom infringed (Chicago Sun-Times, April 18, 2005). He cited a single source, whose bias was obvious, to support the charge that the fence is hurting Christians in East Jerusalem, but failed to mention that the fence is helping to save Christian lives that might otherwise be lost in the indiscriminate attacks of Palestinian terrorists.
The hypocrisy of Novak's latest critique is clear from his failure to raise the very real concerns about the fate of Christians under Arab rule, especially under the Palestinian Authority, where a rapidly declining population of 27,000 Christians live among 3 million Muslims. The proportion of Christians in the Palestinian territories has dropped from 15 percent of the Arab population in 1950 to less than 1 percent today. Three-fourths of all Bethlehem Christians now live abroad, and the majority of the city’s population is Muslim. The Christian population declined 29 percent in the West Bank and 20 percent in the Gaza Strip from 1997 to 2002. By contrast, in the period 1995–2003, Israel’s Arab Christian population grew 14.1 percent (CAMERA, December 24, 2004).
Jonathan Adelman and Agota Kuperman noted that Yasser Arafat “tried to erase the historic Jesus by depicting him as the first radical Palestinian armed fedayeen (guerrilla). Meanwhile, the Palestinian Authority has adopted Islam as its official religion, used shari’a Islamic codes, and allowed even officially appointed clerics to brand Christians (and Jews) as infidels in their mosques.” The authors add that the “militantly Islamic rhetoric and terrorist acts of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Hezbollah...offer little comfort to Christians.”
David Raab observed that “Palestinian Christians are perceived by many Muslims — as were Lebanon's Christians — as a potential fifth column for Israel. In fact, at the start of the recent violence in 2000, Muslim Palestinians attacked Christians in Gaza.” Raab also wrote that “anti-Christian graffiti is not uncommon in Bethlehem and neighboring Beit Sahur, proclaiming: ‘First the Saturday people (the Jews), then the Sunday people (the Christians),’” and that “Christian cemeteries have been defaced, monasteries have had their telephone lines cut, and there have been break-ins at convents.”~
~In this sense, they are no different than Islamists who will kill those who convert to Christianity.~
You yourself have provided evidence of THAT being a lie since 'killing' wasn't in your list.
Do you care to 'provide' evidence to the contrary?
~Where is the historical evidence? Does writing books to support the myth constitute evidence? ~
Would the Germans own records,,NOT books as you refer to,,suffice?:
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007147
~The goals of the International Military Tribunal (IMT) transcended verdict and punishment. The creators of the court were deliberately assembling a public record of the horrific crimes committed by Germans during World War II, including those of the Holocaust. American chief prosecutor Robert Jackson worried that "unless record was made … future generations would not believe how horrible the truth was."
In order to avoid any accusation of exclusive reliance on personal testimony, which later generations might perceive to be biased, prosecutors decided to base their case primarily on thousands of documents written by the Germans themselves. These masses of documents were translated into the court's four official languages, analyzed for their significance, and reproduced for distribution to defense attorneys and other trial participants. The prosecution presented other evidence through artifacts, diagrams, and photographs taken by Nazi photographers in concentration camps. ~
I've been to two concentration camps and have seen the physical IMPOSSIBILITY of the killing in the numbers alleged.~
Which two?
When you did,,were you 'incognito' like the Mufti Hussein was?
Besides should your 'after the fact' visit be given MORE credence or is more reliable or than this?:
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007147
~Eyewitness testimony presented at the Nuremberg trials laid the foundation for much of what we know about the Holocaust including details of the Auschwitz death machinery, atrocities committed by the Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units), the destruction of the Warsaw ghetto, and the original statistical estimate of six million murdered Jews. ~
And besides,,are you expecting everyone to believe you know how much space is needed to kill folks efficiently?
How would you know that?
~Secondly, if you want some data, just look at the world population figures for Jews BEFORE WWII and world population figures for Jews AFTER WWII. Strikingly, they seem to have INCREASED rather than DECREASED. Everyone knows they couldn't possibly have had a birthrate that would have equalled the number they claim to have lost.~
Okay,,I will,,:
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-jewish-population.htm
~In 1939, there were 17 million Jews in the world, and by 1945 only 11 million. While in the 13 years following the Holocaust the Jewish population grew by one million, it took another 38 years for it to grow another million. These sobering figures reflect how severely Jewish population growth has slowed down over the past 40 years. Even a fertility increase of 0.4% will add millions of Jews over the next 50 years. But this is not happening right now.~
Now,,what was that you were saying?
Hey psygon,,in case you don't know it,,with this post of yours,,you have joined ranks with these guys:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KKK_holocaust_a_zionist_hoax.jpg
D'ya notice?They like being 'hidden' too.
~squeek~squeek~
Be a proud Aryan piece of MOONFRUIT,,keep the faith and hide your face,,Sig Heil!!
Still proving that you prove yourself to be a MO-ronic lieing piece of rotten,stinking,fly encrusted moonfruit,,
The DANG-DInGIE American
aka,, The Evil White Man
©Roy Harbin/The DANG – DinGIE American/2007®
roy harbin is roy l.harbin aka,,the dang-dingie american aka,,the evil white man
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