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RE: Evolution
06/16/07 10:26am
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~Anyone who would question the bible is "under the stupor". Under the stupor of what? I'm not sure what this means exactly. ~


Oh?So that means you have been knocking the Bible with out having actually read it?


Isn't that an illogical thing to do?


Seriously wondering how ethical or even logical is it to 'denounce a thing with out examining it fully',especially when someone who claims to be a believer in the tenents of 'science' does so,


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RE: Evolution
06/16/07 10:52am
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~Unless all the mammals had a common ancestor why would the 4000+ species all around the world have these same things in common?~


Like any good and reasonably intelligent engineer would,,God started off with a basic design.


Or does this sound more scientific for your tastes,,it just happened to happen by sheer coincidence and fortuitious happenstances?


What is wrong with 'the scientist' accepting that the God stuff is preternatural,,not supernatural and like such stuff as radiation and radio waves in the past,,we don't have the means to investigate the matter sufficiently enough to draw such adamant conclusions regarding the matter at this time?And that do so would be to be a premature conclusion?Can't the unemotional science mind accept that?


Heck even quantam physics includes an 'aether' type of reality.When that was postulated by 'scientists' in the past,,they were drummed out by the 'educational elite' of the era,,like Galileo was by the Church at that time,,and it was the Acadaemic Institution of it's time.


Isn't this what they say regarding 'undeniable,,irrefutable,conclusive hands down proof of evolution'?,,we ain't done finding all there is yet so we don't know for sure but we sure do hope we find what we are looking for.


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RE: Evolution
06/16/07 11:23am
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~We must have the Christian verson of the end of the world.~


Do you even know what that entails?


Did you know that the world doesn't actually end according to Judeo-Christian teachings?


That's right,,,it just gets 'tuned to a higher expression of it's existence' from what I gather from it,,it doesn't end and no one actually goes away.Everything becomes like Yeshua's body did upon his resurrection.


Here's a line of enquiring thought for all the 'science' minded folks out there:


How much of an effect does the Earths or Suns or other 'unseeable fields' have on life on this planet?


What evidence is existant that would contribute to understanding the nature of the relationships between said fields and lifeforms on Earth?


How much of a change in said fields would it take to affect the life on it?


What possible range of or types of effects might result in regards to the life on the planet with a change in said fields?


Which direction of 'field frequency' modulation would be most detrimental to life on this planet?


Most beneficial?


Might a common answer be?:


'We don't have enough information from which one could draw solid conclusions from.It hasn't been studied due to inability to detect sufficently.


Or?:


'We don't believe in it because our proffesors haven't told us to,,so we ain't going to examine anything related to the topic.It's unstudied and therfore unstudiable which means it's non existant,superstitious and has no basis in reality.'



Enquiringly,


The DANG - DInGIE American


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RE: Evolution
06/16/07 11:37am
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~We would not want to have intelligent people writting religious texts. If we did we would never have gotten away with requiring that the earth is flat and the universe revolves around it.~


Are you sure the Bible does NOT contain information regarding the nature of the Earths shape?


Science agrees with The Bible when they both say the universe was created by a sound:


God said>-<BANG!


What's the difference?Are folks so myoptically stuck on words they can't follow the concepts contained with in them anymore?What's the use of language then?


Intriguing lines of correlative thought exists if one is reasonably open minded and approaches the material available with an eye toward discovery rather than 'validation of preconcieved theoretical postulations'.


Logically speaking of course,


The DANG - DInGIE American


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RE: Evolution
06/16/07 11:53am
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~Never mind that the overwhelming data on the fossil record shows that life began as very simple organisms and progressed to more and more complex forms of life.~


All you really,truthfully have available is evidence that such organisms existed.NOT how they became what you found remains of NOR what their descendents might have looked like NOR what their ancestors looked like,,just what that particular type of organism looked like.


And exactly how may times has 'evolutionary advocates' actually had to change their claims as 'formerly accepted as true facts became exposed as mistakes or lack of understandings'?


Dinos were cold blooded,right?


Neantertals are Homo Sapiens ancestors,right?


Natural selection and husbandry result in changes of species,,or phylums?


Animals of the same species will not,,do not mate due to color variations so color is indicative of speciation and therefore selected breeding which results in phylum changes?


Come on folks,,quit being so antiquated in your reasoning,,open your minds eyes and see how it ain't disagreeing with the truths science reveals,,just the scientist assumptions of why what's revealed exists.


Science doesn't and can't answer why,,except when why is used as a 'mutated perversion of the word how'.


Logically,, as in,, with more than just a higher evolved animals take on the subject,


The DANG - DInGIE American


aka,, The Evil White Man


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RE: Evolution
06/16/07 12:02pm
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~why do you have a tail bone? Why do you have an apendix?~


Probally because he was born with them.I doubt he went out and purchased them,,we ain't that advanced in the whole spare body part biz yet.


Why does a cup with a handle actually have a handle?


So you can,,,


Get a grip,Mo.


Sincerely,


The DANG - DInGIE American


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RE: Evolution confusion a partisan problem
06/13/07 01:13am
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Considering that the 'investigation' of 'evolution' nor of 'creationism' is complete,for one to adamantly claim that evolution should be considered 'truth' as opposed to creationism is to be 'presumptuously decisive'.


While it is fairly expectable for 'creationists' to do so,,since their conviction IS 'openly faith based',,it is idealogically and ethically unsound for the 'evolutionist' to do so since their conviction is alledgedly rooted in the 'prove it first,,then promote it as truth' school of thought known as 'science'.


So,,given that the tenents and doctrines of 'non faith based science' focus soley on the 'found' not the 'possible find',,those that revere Darwins theory so highly must bow to what the fellow called the Father of Evolution said regarding his own 'ideas',,which was,,in essence,,this is not a quote,,'Untill the eye is explained it's not valid.' For them to herald it as truth prematurely,,is to 'not logical' period.NO MATTER how much they 'hope' that something will be found 'one day' that will validate the claim made by themselves of 'the evolutionary theory is proven ENOUGH' to be the 'only theory' worth considering.


Of course,,the 'faith based scientist' doesn't have that problem since they allready know that all of what you find was created and all one can do is 'discover' what's there.


Which of course is what the actual ideology of science truly is,,Discovery.Right?


So why aren't all those 'alledgedly intelligent and reasonably sane' folks said to be 'highly educated' actually following the tenents of their discipline rather than displaying such blatant hypochrisy.


Could it be an example of how a perfectly good mind can easily be ruined through 'higher education'?Or is it the behaviour of 'deluded minds' that refuse to face facts found in reality,,like the ones that 'prove' evolution is only an UNPROVEN theory?


Pointing out the obvious in my own particular God Given Style,,with 'human reasoning' not the reasoning of a highly evolved animal that arrogantly thinks it knows all there one needs to know in order to make such a claim as Only the Evolutionary Theory should be taught as the only viable theory available,,,especially on the PUBLIC TAX DOLLAR,


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